[Smaug] scruz.org re-design

Jacob Hunter jmhunter at gmail.com
Mon Nov 7 22:26:45 PST 2005

So in other words you're thinking "Hey if I can get a backlink from
SMAUG then instead of a 5/10 Pagerank, I'll have a 6!"  Woohoo! 
Pretty lousy, I also as group founder would not appreciate in anyway
someone posting their name up for a back link.... pretty cheap...  I
actually had no problem with you up til this point, but David Gatwood,
or myself never took a backlink, and Rick has never taken anything....
 Sounds to me like alterior motives....

I hate to tell people to shove it, but it almost makes me want to do that...

As for the design, the problem I think is that there is nothing
spectacular... If it's not broken, why fix it (since the new one is
not mcuh better... I just tried your "accesibility" concern... the
site looks fine on my pocketpc...


On 11/7/05, Anthony Ettinger <apwebdesign at yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
> > Quoting cerise at armory.com (cerise at armory.com):
> >
> > > 1) He can do absolutely no worse than the way the
> > website is at the present.
> >
> > I think he can do a great deal worse, and am very
> > much tempted to
> > sadistically step completely aside and let you find
> > out the hard way.
> >
> > > 2) As you've noted, motivated people are in short
> > supply.  He's
> > > motivated unlike the rest of us.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure he's motivated to put his own stuff
> > up in public, in
> > place of other people's work.  Anything else, I
> > would doubt.  I mean no
> > criticism of Anthony in saying that:  It's what what
> > Web designers do.
> > And, at that point, Smaug is most _definitely_ going
> > to be worse off,
> > and I'll be saying "I told you so."
> >
> > The fact that Anthony never bothered to check out
> > the CVS, and that even
> > the SSIs come as a surprise to him, and that he's
> > trying to handwave
> > such considerations away and is changing his story
> > on what this is all
> > about -- i.e., it's not about accessibility, after
> > all -- says volumes.
> what a joke...
> for the record I did browse through the CVS web on
> your project page, and saw some of the ssi's. I see
> you're familiar with the <font> tag :)
> I find it funny how you claim the backend to this
> painfully simplistic web site is so complicated and
> that only a "genius" like yourself has the know-how to
> implement such a killer app.
> Give me a break man, <font> and "SSI" was cool in the
> early to mid 90's. Get over yourself, and read a bit
> about mobile and section 508 accessible web sites.
> I'm sure you think I'm out to "take over" whatever it
> is you think you have there, but really, I'm offering
> a pretty valuable site redesign, even if I do suck at
> graphic design. Only thing I would like is a link back
> to my homepage in the footer. There you have it.
> Anthony Ettinger
> ph: (408) 656-2473
> web: http://www.apwebdesign.com
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