[Smaug] scruz.org re-design
rick at linuxmafia.com
Mon Nov 7 21:51:09 PST 2005
Quoting cerise at armory.com (cerise at armory.com):
> Alright, here's what I think.
> 1) Rick: I don't mean that anyone else would necessarily
> maintain Anthony's over David's or David's over Anthony's.
> What I mean is that if Anthony puts things together and
> owns it, then chances are he'll maintain it.
You know, I'd like to say I agree with you, but I honestly do not
see this at _all_. That is not what Web designers do. They come up
with something, and hand it off to the client.
I appreciate Anthony's generosity in doing this work, and I meant no
criticism in raising the point: I was simply pointing out that claiming
Anthony's idea of a Web site is more likely to be maintained is a
> 2) Jacob: Your input is valued, however I don't think any of
> us apart from you have a particular sentimental attachment
> to the web page in particular.
I personally don't have a _sentimental_ attachment to David's work, but
I appreciate its aesthetic merit -- and the thoughtful SSI design that
makes editing reasonably foolproof.
> It's sort of a millstone at the moment because it's continually out of
As mentioned, you aren't making sense: Maintenance is an orthogonal
issue. You and others are every bit as likely to blow off a relatively
ugly replacement as they are the existing pages.
> Modernizing it paves the way for automating some tasks (like,
> for example, when the next meeting is).
I don't think you have any idea what's entailed. Furthermore, you're
again raising something entirely orthogonal and drawing a non-sequitur
conclusion: If changes could be automated on an entirely new site
(which is a whole lot more difficult than you think, because of the way
the site works), then it could equally well could be with the existing
Basically, you've let yourself get fed a line by a Web designer, who
simply wants to chuck everything out for reasons entirely of his own.
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