[Smaug] scruz.org re-design

Anthony Ettinger apwebdesign at yahoo.com
Mon Nov 7 19:15:50 PST 2005


Geez guys, forget I even mentioned it, didn't mean to
start a flame war.


--- Jacob Hunter <jmhunter at gmail.com> wrote:

> SORRY I forgot, this is a dictatorship!
> 
> I don't live near or I would probably still attend. 
> Publicly posting
> something like this shows your lack of tact,
> something found common in
> people who speak as you do.  I spent about 1 month
> of solid work-often
> putting aside my paid work in 2000 to get this thing
> up and running, I
> did as much as providing food and beverage and a
> serious recruiting
> (pronounced SPAM) effort to get this going.  Also
> many may remember
> the copious amounts of swag I had available at every
> meeting, not to
> mention 5 sponsors (from memory VA, alvin olga,
> turbolinux, caldera,
> SCO-albeit some irony there).
> 
> I don't think anyone will ever be poised to put in
> as much time as I
> did on this group.  I am not looking for you to take
> my opinion as the
> only one... i was throwing in my two cents-i
> normally would only send
> an email like this off-list, but since you brought
> it on list- I will
> too.
> 
> jacob
> 
> 
> On 11/7/05, Peter Belew <abcruzww at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I personally think that the people who actually
> are
> > presently involved in SMAUG should make the
> decisions.
> >
> > The present site does NOT fulfill its purpose: it
> is
> > always way out of date, for one thing.
> >
> > If anyone wants to get involved in how the site is
> to
> > be designed, they should attend the meetings of
> > the group, and not whine from afar! I don't mean
> > to offend the people who started the web site and
> > (supposedly) maintain it, but we need to move on.
> >
> >  - Peter
> >
> > On 11/7/05, Anthony Ettinger
> <apwebdesign at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Well, nothing personal. I wasn't trying to "make
> a
> > > better site"...I was more or less trying to
> apply some
> > > new accessibily and css methodologies, and the
> site
> > > came up at the meeting I went too.
> > >
> > > If you don't want me to change it, I'll use the
> layout
> > > for something else i'm sure.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Jacob Hunter <jmhunter at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > It's probably because the root of the html was
> > > > initially my creation,
> > > > as well as the graphics (so I am sentimental)
> but I
> > > > think the webiste
> > > > really accomplishes the job effectively right
> now..
> > > > i don't see a need
> > > > for redesign-it communicates everything you
> need to
> > > > know on the front
> > > > page...
> > > > just my two cents
> > > >
> > > > Jacob
> > > > _Founder_
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 11/7/05, cerise at armory.com
> <cerise at armory.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > For my part, I didn't see anything really
> wrong
> > > > with swapping the whole
> > > > > thing out for Anthony's design.  I concur
> that in
> > > > many ways it isn't
> > > > > really all that different, but given the
> > > > cost/benefit of:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) Having a new site design that makes the
> group
> > > > look...y'know...active, or
> > > > > 2) Asking Anthony to set aside his work and
> hack
> > > > together things that no one
> > > > >    in the group is particularly attached to,
> > > > >
> > > > > it seems obvious to me that the right choice
> is to
> > > > hand it off to Anthony
> > > > > and let him own it while he's still
> motivated ; )
> > > > >
> > > > > On a side note, I was surprised to not see
> "lorem
> > > > ipsum" used ; )
> > > > >
> > > > > -Phil/CERisE
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 03:53:21PM -0800,
> Rick
> > > > Moen wrote:
> > > > > > Some things were done right, even by
> antique Web
> > > > standards:  Either
> > > > > > David's original work or my subsequent
> > > > maintenance put ALT tags on
> > > > > > things, and David seems to have avoided
> all the
> > > > other major gotchas
> > > > > > listed on the QuickTips page.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any chance you feel up to refactoring
> David's
> > > > design (including SSI
> > > > > > *.sub files) into CSS form, without
> mucking with
> > > > the aesthetics?
> > > > > > I for one rather like the latter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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