[Smaug] scruz.org re-design

[Jacob Hunter]

SORRY I forgot, this is a dictatorship!

I don't live near or I would probably still attend.  Publicly posting
something like this shows your lack of tact, something found common in
people who speak as you do.  I spent about 1 month of solid work-often
putting aside my paid work in 2000 to get this thing up and running, I
did as much as providing food and beverage and a serious recruiting
(pronounced SPAM) effort to get this going.  Also many may remember
the copious amounts of swag I had available at every meeting, not to
mention 5 sponsors (from memory VA, alvin olga, turbolinux, caldera,
SCO-albeit some irony there).

I don't think anyone will ever be poised to put in as much time as I
did on this group.  I am not looking for you to take my opinion as the
only one... i was throwing in my two cents-i normally would only send
an email like this off-list, but since you brought it on list- I will
too.

jacob


On 11/7/05, Peter Belew <abcruzww at gmail.com> wrote:
> I personally think that the people who actually are
> presently involved in SMAUG should make the decisions.
>
> The present site does NOT fulfill its purpose: it is
> always way out of date, for one thing.
>
> If anyone wants to get involved in how the site is to
> be designed, they should attend the meetings of
> the group, and not whine from afar! I don't mean
> to offend the people who started the web site and
> (supposedly) maintain it, but we need to move on.
>
>  - Peter
>
> On 11/7/05, Anthony Ettinger <apwebdesign at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Well, nothing personal. I wasn't trying to "make a
> > better site"...I was more or less trying to apply some
> > new accessibily and css methodologies, and the site
> > came up at the meeting I went too.
> >
> > If you don't want me to change it, I'll use the layout
> > for something else i'm sure.
> >
> >
> > --- Jacob Hunter <jmhunter at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > It's probably because the root of the html was
> > > initially my creation,
> > > as well as the graphics (so I am sentimental) but I
> > > think the webiste
> > > really accomplishes the job effectively right now..
> > > i don't see a need
> > > for redesign-it communicates everything you need to
> > > know on the front
> > > page...
> > > just my two cents
> > >
> > > Jacob
> > > _Founder_
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/7/05, cerise at armory.com <cerise at armory.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > For my part, I didn't see anything really wrong
> > > with swapping the whole
> > > > thing out for Anthony's design.  I concur that in
> > > many ways it isn't
> > > > really all that different, but given the
> > > cost/benefit of:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Having a new site design that makes the group
> > > look...y'know...active, or
> > > > 2) Asking Anthony to set aside his work and hack
> > > together things that no one
> > > >    in the group is particularly attached to,
> > > >
> > > > it seems obvious to me that the right choice is to
> > > hand it off to Anthony
> > > > and let him own it while he's still motivated ; )
> > > >
> > > > On a side note, I was surprised to not see "lorem
> > > ipsum" used ; )
> > > >
> > > > -Phil/CERisE
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 03:53:21PM -0800, Rick
> > > Moen wrote:
> > > > > Some things were done right, even by antique Web
> > > standards:  Either
> > > > > David's original work or my subsequent
> > > maintenance put ALT tags on
> > > > > things, and David seems to have avoided all the
> > > other major gotchas
> > > > > listed on the QuickTips page.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any chance you feel up to refactoring David's
> > > design (including SSI
> > > > > *.sub files) into CSS form, without mucking with
> > > the aesthetics?
> > > > > I for one rather like the latter.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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