[Smaug] Happy 5th Year!

Jack Craig jcraig at Brocade.COM
Mon Jul 25 09:45:20 PDT 2005


its great to hear of the re-emergence of local linux UG.

i've been using linux since sco evaporated and wondering
who else around here was also using linx.

sounds like a great forum for new experience.

i have a topic, digital imaging on linux. this is a personal
interest of mine and being explored at www.imageintegration.com/gallery.

i'd love to learn new ideas and meet folks with similar interest.





On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 23:05, cerise at armory.com wrote:



> 
> One last bit:  While the idea that current SCO is not old SCO is kind of
> a romantic notion, it's not entirely true.  While the current SCO is really
> what was Caldera (which bought up old SCO), it still contains what's left
> of the old SCO (including OpenServer and Unixware).  I used to live with a
> guy who worked there (and probably still does).

as an ex-old sco employee that is mad as hell about how the utah jerks
have crapped all over the great memories and deeds that the old sco did,
i take issue with this. certainly its true that the company in utah
owns the remaining IP and i suspect there are a few folks local that
remain en thier employ that i regard highly, it doesnt change the fact
that the folks doing business as 'sco group' are simply jerks trying to
scrounge a few more bucks out of captive clients before fading into
complete oblivion.

put romance aside for the moment and recall that in the old sco,
there were actually software engineers creating that IP they whine
about today. 98% or more of that talent was long ago laid off.
i leave 2% for bela and robert, who are consumate professionals.

IMHO, sco died the day caldera bought the server part. 

but hey, everyone has an opinion; mine is no more valid than anyone
else's. :)

great history, thx for sharing, jackc...


> 
> -Phil/CERisE
> 
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 07:23:39PM -0700, Jacob M Hunter, ASD, WRT wrote:
> > About 5 years ago i attended a few SVLUG meetings and a sluglug. 
> > Sluglug @ucsc was more of a school club that actually worked on
> > projects and was involved in linux development to an extent.  I got
> > tired of driving to san jose so i launched out own LUG, got lots of
> > sponsorship to pay for everything.  VA Linux paid for our initial
> > domain name, my company at the time netline hosted the mailing list,
> > and many linux "companies" -turbo linux, suse, caldera, provided free
> > swag.  Only thing I invested was about $15 in snacks for each meeting
> > at costco.  I approached SCO and asked if they had a meeting room that
> > we coulf use, turned out they had a whole meeting center, but they
> > warned me once the "caldera takeover" happened it may be no longer,
> > thus was true, after i think our third meeting they closed down the
> > facility and put it up for sale.
> > 
> > I at that point distances myself from the group, frustrated as a lot
> > of people started just showing up to get "free stuff" and i had been
> > laid off, and didn't have much time for the group anymore.  One cool
> > thing i miss about SCO was free beverages.
> > 
> > SMAUG laid dormant for a while, and then over the last year has gotten
> > hot again.  Initially we had some speakers offered by VA Linux,
> > raster, mandrake, and a few other people.  Check out the archives from
> > 2000 in our mailing list, if its on there.  We switched from our lyris
> > server at netline to SVLUG's server.
> > 
> > Mark the then president of SVLUG was very very helpful in getting
> > things going infrastructure wise.
> > 
> > That's all i can recall right now.
> > 
> > On 7/22/05, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
> > > Quoting Max Baker (max at warped.org):
> > > 
> > > > I'm going to deferr to Jacob on matters of History.
> > > 
> > > Jacob's intended reference was to Smaug initially meeting at a conference
> > > centre furnished by SCO Group.  (That was old-SCO, _not_ the Utah-based
> > > corporation now involved in Linux litigation with IBM, Red Hat, Novell,
> > > AutoZone, and Daimler-Chrysler.)
> > > 
> > > > Jacob,  could you maybe tell us how SMAUG came to be and where the first
> > > > meetings were held?
> > > 
> > > And please correct http://www.scruz.org/meetingnotes.html if it's wrong.  ;->
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
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> > 
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